The Four Loves ('Philia' or 'Friendship') by C.S. Lewis Doodle

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This is an illustration of C.S Lewis’ talk about the second of the four loves – 'Philia' or 'Friendship'. Notes below... Originally 'The Four Loves' series was recorded by Lewis in London in 1958, prepared as 10 talks to air on the ‘Protestant Hour’ on American radio. I believe 'Philia' was split into three talks. The second part begins at 7:01 and the third at 18:30 if you need smaller, bite-sized segments. You can find my transcript of this talk here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9MmcPqIiEnKTWtnYmthbHNvNDg/view?usp=sharing You can purchase Lewis' original radio broadcasts here: https://www.amazon.com/The-Four-Loves/dp/B0007OB5QM These talks were later turned into a larger book with more detail (with quite different examples), which you can find here: https://www.amazon.com/Four-Loves-C-S-Lewis/dp/0156329301 (1:14) "[Ancient romantic couples such as] Tristan and Isolde, Antony and Cleopatra, Romeo and Juliet, have innumerable counterparts in modern literature: [Ancient friendships such as] David and Jonathan, Pylades and Orestes, Roland and Oliver, Amis and Amile, have not. To the Ancients, Friendship seemed the happiest and most fully human of all loves; the crown of life and the school of virtue. The modern world, in comparison, ignores it." (2:21) “Your [friendship] love was…greater than the love of women [i.e., Eros]”. Friendship love from Jonathan in David’s life had been of a better quality here than the Eros love from his wife, Michal, Jonathan's sister. (4:37) Dr Johnson was probably the most distinguished man of letters in English history and Boswell wrote his biography, which is claimed as “the greatest biography written in the English language”. Lewis described this relationship as a “pretty flagrantly heterosexual couple”. (21:29) See Genesis 4.9 “Am I my brother's keeper?” But note God’s exception to this kind of help in 2 Chronicles 19.2. (22:34) “This [Friendship] love (essentially) ignores not only our physical bodies, but that whole embodiment which consists of our family, job, past and connections. At home, besides being Peter or Jane, we also bear a general character; husband or wife, brother or sister, chief, colleague or subordinate. Not among our Friends. It is an affair of disentangled, or stripped, minds. Eros will have naked bodies; Friendship naked personalities." (23:56) ‘Immune from the internal corruptions of Storge’ – that is, Friendship is almost free from Affection's need to be needed. (24:20) “…We must notice that Friendship is very rarely the image under which Scripture represents the love between God and Man. It is not entirely neglected; but far more often, seeking a symbol for the highest love of all, Scripture ignores this seemingly almost angelic relation and plunges into the depth of what is most natural and instinctive…Friendship is even, if you like, angelic. But man needs to be triply protected by humility if he is to eat the bread of angels without risk. Perhaps we may now hazard a guess why Scripture uses Friendship so rarely as an image of the highest love. It is already, in actual fact, too spiritual to be a good symbol of Spiritual things." ('The Four Loves', Friendship). (29:01) From ‘Aucassin and Nicolette’ (c. 1200): “For to Hell go the fair clerks [intellectuals] and the fair knights who are slain in the [jousting] tourney and the great wars, and the stout archer and the gallant nobles. With them will I go. And there go the fair and courteous ladies, who have lovers, two or three, together with their wedded lords. And there pass the gold and the silver, the ermine [mink] and all rich furs, harpers and minstrels [poets], and the happy of the world. With these will I go, so only that I have Nicolette, my very sweet friend, by my side.” (29:05) “Now a man must be very good or…very bad, not to feel in himself a response to that gesture”; ”The real black, diabolical Pride comes when you look down on others so much that you do not care what they think of you. Of course, it is very right, and often our duty, not to care what people think of us, if we do so for the right reason; namely, because we care so incomparably more what God thinks. But the Proud man has a different reason for not caring..." (Mere Christianity, ‘The Great Sin’).
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Phoenix Rise 04.11.2019 16:50
He is such a genius. Wow.
Sam Carroll 02.11.2019 01:44
Its so cool to me that this is his actual voice. 
Micha B 13.08.2019 11:43
Thank you so much!
Dylan Jones 07.03.2019 03:57
Thank You! Had to read this for a Theology class, way better!
CSLewisDoodle 07.03.2019 21:27
There are more notes (plus time stamps) in the video description above that might help clarify Lewis' meaning on some points. Also, the PDF of the transcript in the comment's section includes all the scripture references which makes it much easier to find them. CLSD.
Samuel Crees 26.10.2018 17:13
So true!
CSLewisDoodle 10.09.2018 22:08
Some folks have written in to ask, ‘But wasn’t Abraham a friend of God? And isn’t this picture used in Scripture of our relationship with God?’ Yes it is used, but Friendship is very rarely the image under which Scripture represents the love between God and Man, whereas the image of Eros and Storge is used countless times. Nevertheless friendship with God is mentioned. I can count two or three persons/groups in Scripture who are friends of God. Enoch perhaps (Genesis 5.24), Abraham of course (2 Chon. 20.7 etc.), Moses probably (Exodus 32.10, 33.11), and the apostles definitely (John 15.15). Why isn't it mentioned more frequently? Not because friendship is any less important an image. Lewis give his explanation for this rarity in his book version: (24:20) “…We must notice that Friendship is very rarely the image under which Scripture represents the love between God and Man. It is not entirely neglected; but far more often, seeking a symbol for the highest love of all, Scripture ignores this seemingly almost angelic relation and plunges into the depth of what is most natural and instinctive…Friendship is even, if you like, angelic. But man needs to be triply protected by humility if he is to eat the bread of angels without risk. Perhaps we may now hazard a guess why Scripture uses Friendship so rarely as an image of the highest love. It is already, in actual fact, too spiritual to be a good symbol of Spiritual things." ('The Four Loves', Friendship). There is one other point that might be worth considering. Friendship with God might be at a whole different level. You remember Jesus said this to his disciples: "I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you." Because friendship with God is not spoken much about in the Scriptures, I wonder if it is because there are not that many of us who He could share His deeper secrets with and in return, would we keep it to ourselves? Remember how many times the Lord spoke to folks, that they were not to speak of the miracle he had just done for them (John 5.14, Mark 1.41-45 etc.), and they immediately went out and reported it to everybody! Not a lot of real friendship going on there. Additionally, their loose lips meant that Jesus couldn’t go into some towns to preach (Mark 1.45). Yet some "friends of God" were allowed to proclaim their own healing (Luke 8.39), others could tell revelations, but not until certain events occurred (Matthew 17.9). Other friends of God (Moses) were asked to go and proclaim the message in public (Exodus 5.1). How many of us, if God should show us something troubling coming up, that was in His Will, and we didn’t like it that much, would go about trying to stop the event? How many of us would try to stop the troubling of the waters that would result from God’s Will occurring, that God needed to take place for His own purposes? For instance, Jesus knew about his upcoming trouble of his own crucifixion, but he didn’t change the event. Only his disciples (his friends) heard about it, and Peter tried to change his mind, and we remember the curt reply by Christ “Get behind me Satan”. In our own circumstances some of us might have wondered “Why didn’t God forewarn us?” of some trouble that was to come, as He definitely does at times. Could it be that we were going to meddle and spoil the bigger picture? Being a friend of God is a position of confidence and of great trust.
Mica Pascky 18.08.2018 00:17
this is too awesome! thank you for sharing
Taylor 14.06.2018 11:35
As always, these are amazing. Thank you so much for doing these!
loranmaloney 10.04.2018 20:36
Thank you
Praying Mantis 03.04.2018 01:33
Man that's deep. In the bible God calls Himself our: Father(storge) Husband (Eros) Friend(philios) and Saviour(Agape) Never noticed that before watching this. We are loved loved! Thank God for the blood of Jesus Christ
CSLewisDoodle 11.03.2018 14:13
I heard a wise man say that if you can count two or three true friends at the very end of your life, you have been very fortunate indeed. So don’t be too discouraged if you haven’t experienced this kind of Friendship love, for it is the rarest form of love and not absolutely necessary for your well-being as Proverbs 18.24 says "A man of friends may be broken up, but there is a Lover who sticks closer than a brother" (KJ3).
Red Rax - Max Meyer 31.01.2018 21:54
Great visualization!
Dave Barker 22.10.2017 01:21
instant sub
DESSYSENPAI 30.09.2017 20:04
Magnificent .
Jonathon Stover 28.08.2017 16:33
I want to personally thank you for doing these videos. The Four Loves was a book that I read in college (of my own will) and found to be tremendously deep and difficult, in part because I am dyslexic. Your presentations to accompany the text do such an amazing job of explaining the deep meanings of it that I have come to understand it so much better. Please continue this series. I know that Eros will be difficult to present tastefully, but I have faith that you can do it.
salli4588 23.08.2017 16:13
Excellent work as usual. Thank you.
Brendan Meylor 20.08.2017 03:21
Your work is fantastic.This is a labor of Love. It makes the resources of Lewis far more accessible: and in a very attractive format.
Henny Zhi 19.08.2017 04:10
Thanks for continuing the Four Loves.
Bobby Miller 05.08.2017 22:22
As usual, this is very interesting and accessible. Thank you!
Samuel Matz 03.08.2017 19:15
Your hard work is greatly appreciated. All should know, we are to continually grow and that takes learning guided by the Holy Spirit. Again, Thanks .
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